So. Bugger.

However.

I’ve had enough bitter and twisted workmates over the years who should’ve quit (or taken a break) when they had the chance to know this is a smart move (and you guys aren’t even getting paid). I will keep my eyes open (and maybe keep an eye on Dan’s summerhouse….I would have gone for a fallout shelter myself but there you go).

I would never delete you guys from my itunes. Oddly enough my other fav podcast Trekcast went on hiatus more than a year ago, and just started back up, so I will hold out hope for you guys. I am really impressed with how long you guys have gone without a major break.

I’m still holding out for that Willow podcast.

Take care guys, will keep up on your blogs.

Seriously, though – appreciate the news even if a bit bummed by it. Like the others, I’ll be back on board when you two take to the skies again.

If Jones is to blame for any of this, we really ought to know about that, though…

BTW – This is a nice way to delay the Total Recall review

Regards,
Dean

First of all let me thank you for the podcast. It has been great to listen to, and as I’ve said before it was really cool to have while going through a rough time in my life.

I fully support you guys taking a break, but will definitely miss the show. I sincerely hope it comes back eventually, and I can’t wait till that happens. I will now go back and make sure I listen to every episode, though it will probably make me sad knowing that when I catch up that will be it.

Lee, I’m not sure what medical problems you’re having but I wish you all the best and will pray for you. My wife and I have dealt with cancer in the past, so we know how time consuming and nagging health problems can be sometimes.

Dan, God bless you and your family. Having young kids can be very time consuming! Congrats on the new baby as well!

Man, I’m way more sad about this than I should be . But you guys really do have a great show, and I’ll be back to listen and laugh whenever you guys are ready.

+1 on all the above comments from other listeners.

Jonathan

You both have built a strong community here full of articulate, passionate and oppinionated people (in a good way) who’ll be here if/when you come back, and for that, I thank you.

Take care and stay frosty.

You guys gotta do, what you gotta do.
Chill out and refresh and we’ll see you when we see you.

And you can always do Yor: Hunter From the Future as your Come back Special

All the best.

And now, let me be the first to say what else everyone is thinking: Take care of yourselves and do what you need to do. We’ll be here when you get back.

And now, let me be the first to say what Ian was thinking: FIRST!

They’re all about fun and charity, but even Shriner’s don’t like Batman & Robin.

It seems the creators were going for a comedy, in the style of the old TV show. That doesn’t work for two big reasons:
1. Batman TV was looking back to silly Batman comics of the 40s and 50s and to the old serials of the 40s. Batman and Robin movie was looking back to …. what exactly? Silly comics. The target of both versions’ ironic nostalgia dictates the quality of the final product. Bat-TV lovingly mocked some pretty dumb source comics. B&R movie sneeringly mocked comics as a medium, and superhero stories as a genre. Schumacher wasn’t mocking Frank Miller or Knightfall. He was just playing up the superhero stereotypes, all while trying to sell as many toys as possible.

2. Batman and Batman Returns were already comedies. People falsely viewed these as purely serious films because of their dark tone. These two films truly update the ironic nostalgia comedy of the old TV show. Like Bat-TV, the first two Burton Batfilms can be viewed as a loving mockery or as adventures in their own right. BF and B&R are nasty parodies against comic books told by incompetent turds who don’t even bother to look at their targets long enough to form a coherent joke.

As for Dan’s new hobby the only reasonable explanation is that he has been in a cryo-prison and taught how to crochet.

Well I’ve never seen the Catwoman movie and I think I’ll keep it that way. Good call Lee & Dan. Now bring on Evil Bill & Ted!

PS. I’m drinking a beer right now. Come on Evil Phil let’s go get some shots and wreck shit.

The Never Ending Story was another film which we found quite deep upon revisiting the material, if you’ve not listened to that podcast I recommend that as well.

Fantastic podcast that kept me interested more than the movie itself! Lee, your commentary on catwoman and the plight of women in general was really, really good. As a father of daughters, I must say that I understand what you were saying and what Burton was trying to communicate much more now than I did as a young man watching this film for the first time. I had sworn off all of the non-Nolan Batman films but you have made me rethink that stance. Good on you, sir! Great insight.

Oh, and Dan, you’re cool too.

I think this film gets forgiven a lot because it is a Batman film and Batman is cool and no one wants to accept that Batman is just bad in this case. We all fight it in our minds because how can Batman be all that bad? Surely even bad Batman is good?!?

It is not.

I don’t think Catwoman will be making a showing at the midmoclub any time soon. I don’t think our insurance will cover it!!!

You’ll get your Bill and Ted 2 podcast and you’ll like it or there will be no dessert.

Good one Phil >:|

I think age had a lot to do with my reaction to the films, I was still in high school for BF and I think I checked my reaction because I was bitter about no Keaton and thought I was over reacting. Batman and Robin I was a bit older and the film was offensively piss poor, but looking at them now they are on a level playing field.

Also I don’t know how useful your clipboard will be in a zombie apocalypse unless you’re trying to keep score on head shots

I don’t know why you guys do this to yourselves. lol I’ve only seen this film once when it came out. I was only about 13 but I still thought it was terrible. For some weird reason though I had a Batman and Robin movie poster in my room for a couple years… I think I was so desperate to get a live action superheroine I kept it up there anyways. I gave it away to a kid I think… too bad I don’t still have it rolled up somewhere. I could have taken a picture with me, posted it here and printed it was my favorite film or something.

Is it just me or does the set look like a cheap haunted house? The kind that’s all glow in the dark paint at cheap local fairs?

Oh come on wimps, you have to finish up the marathon! I actually didn’t think Catwoman was all that bad. It’s not good, or even mediocre, but I didn’t feel like I was drinking a razor blade shake or anything.

I would also post the phrase to prove that I am a regular listener and not just from that forum after freebee’s, but I can’t remember what it was. Besides, if Dan doesn’t know that I have been listening since we met at a podcasters knee’s up….(and doing the back catalogue too! I’m up to Jingle All The Way)

Can’t believe no one’s said “Happiness” yet.

As usual, I thoroughly enjoyed the show! Thanks guys!

You guys pretty much covered all the bad point. One that sticks with me is when Batman says to Robin “nice stems” in reference to Poison Ivy’s legs.

I hate those silly costumes at the end, its been years since I have seen this but it always seemed a hell of a lot worse then Batman Forever. I remember having a violent reaction to it after the film finished which I didn’t get with BF.

This movie deserves the low scores you gave it. I cringed through the movie when in first came out and I stopped watching half-way through when I tried to watch it again on TV recently. I wanted to like it, but the crap that director wanted me to swallow was just too much.

I’ve said previously that I don’t mind the costumes in this film. That’s still true but I’d probably concede rather quickly if i was challenged.

Also – crochet? I had to put down the crocodile I was fighting and double check I had heard correctly. I openly question your tough guy credentials. Now excuse me while I return to carving my secret volcano base from the hard sandstone upon which my fully defensible bunker system is located…

(Apologies if this post gets you placed on any watch lists but view is a view is a view right?)

I’m just saying.

DUDE
And you know Smokey has emotional problems!

WALTER
You mean–beyond pacifism?

As for the Big Lebowski, its about time

I went and saw this film in the cinema when it first came out and I remember really liking it. I thought the car wasn’t as good as Keaton’s and the neon gangbangers were crap but the rest of the film was very enjoyable.

Because of that, I found your review very confronting. Will I still like it now? Is it really as bad as Batman and Robin? Could it be worse? Should I watch it again and be sure?

I do value your opinions on films (mostly), so I think I’ll leave Batman Forever on the shelf and my fond memories intact a while longer.

By the way, I saw The Big Lebowski a few nights ago and absolutely loved it. John Goodman is The Man! Thank you very much for the recommendation.

As much as I like me some young Val Kilmer…..I refuse to watch this movie becasue Jim Carey weirds me out as it is, and seeing him in that joker outfit is down right disturbing.

I will stick to The Doors and The Ghost and the Darkness for my Kilmer oogling.

I’ve never seen the next two movies…..and it will propbably stay that way.

The horror…

It’s an excellent read and I can’t recommend it higher if you like science fiction with a hint of horror.

You said ti was a MUST READ! I wrote down “Midwitch Cookers”? There’s no way that’s right! What was it?

Wait now I remember why I liked it…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ5FBwLi_as

OK then, I’ll go with Love Actually.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wrath

Oh yeah, and how do I get an avatar on here?!?!

Dazed and confused!

But you are right. If i’m honest I just copied and pasted the suggestions from the guy who’s giving us the voucher. I have now removed it and replaced it with “Fast Times at Ridgemont High” I hope that is satisfactory.

Nightmare is not an emotion.

It’s important to establish a baseline for the punters otherwise they’ll be all “Step Up 2″ on us.

I take your point about Nightmare being borderline – But it is used to describe how people feel – but yes, dodgy. I apologise.

Love story